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Hi there and thank you for being so forthcoming. I don’t think I have solutions to all your obstacles, but perhaps I can offer some perspective as a fellow newbie.

1.  You listed anxiety as your primary concern, so I’ll address that first. In the US we call self-promotion "hustling." Most creative people I know are not very good at hustling, some because of the anxiety issues you mentioned, and others because they feel their art should speak for itself. For the most part, crowdfunding is a hustler’s game. There are some who manage to succeed without hustling, but they are the rare exceptions. One alternative avenue you might want to consider, if you feel strongly about your craft and narrative but hate hustling, is to pursue publishing through a more traditional route, i.e. send your manuscript to agents and attempt to get a book deal that way. There will still be anxiety in dealing with agents and facing rejection, but you won’t have to deal with the anxiety of asking your acquaintances to part with their money.

I still experience similar anxiety every time I ask someone to pre-order my book, but I’m what you call a "giver." Every time someone I know asks me to support something they’re doing, whether it’s helping them move or contributing to a charity race, music, girl scout cookies, whatever - I support them. In a bar or a restaurant, I’m always the one who picks up the tab. I never ask for anything in return. I like giving. So, in my mind, making this ask of people to support the book is not a Bad Thing, because:

- I’m not asking for much
- I really believe they’ll like the book

I hope this helps, somewhat.

2. The LGBT community here and everyone online is very supportive and nurturing. Have you considered reaching out to the Write Out Loud Syndicate here? 

3. Trading pre-orders is frowned upon. It’s not a practice you should think of as "necessary" in order to succeed. You’d probably be even more successful in getting Inkshares authors to pre-order your book by simply engaging with them in meaningful conversation rather than doing order exchanges.  Asking your friends for things like a cover or to beta read your book doesn’t always have involve money. I do lots of favors for my friends which in the business world would translate to thousands of dollars, and they do the same for me. You’re a baker? If I was  an artist I’d gladly do a cover in exchange for baguettes and cookies :) There’s enormous power in community. Foster your own personal creative circle, and always give four times more than you receive. It’s a great model for living.

I’m not sure if this helps or not. You’re not alone here, this is an amazing community. We’re here for you.
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    You need to meet @Ricardo Henriquez and @Elayna Mae Darcy (or do you already know her? I forget... someone said they know you).

    Ricardo started the Write Out Loud Syndicate, which is in the phase of searching for books to support and discovering that there might not be enough books by/about LGBTQ+ people for the syndicate to continue. It’s rough to realize that Inkshares has only a small LGBTQ+ community right now, but it will grow.

    As for the anxiety, I have that, too! You just have to find your way of connecting with people. Individual requests are pretty much the main way you will get any orders - lots of people find Facebook messages to be successful, others get hundreds of orders asking in person at conventions. Find your way of reaching out, and also always try new things... and then let yourself rest so you don’t die.

    RE: Language, that’s rough. I hope you can find your target audience via the magic of the internet - where we can all find out that we’re not alone, and there are thousands of other people like us! Yay!

    As for the credit card thing, I honestly don’t know - don’t trade pre-orders (I’m not a fan of that strategy at all), but maybe you know someone IRL willing to let you pay them cash to buy orders on your behalf with their card? Then you can take cash from your friends and pay the person with the card, and the shipping address won’t matter as much because hopefully you’d know all of these people and you can hand them the book in person.

    I like your conclusion; it’s the same one I have had to rely on many times - I love my book and I believe in it. It won’t be easy, but I think this way of publishing is the future and it’s worth it even when it is hard.

    Welcome to Inkshares. I’m glad you’re here!




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      You and I have a lot in common: we are both queer, our first language is not English, and we both struggle with anxiety.

      I read your excerpt and I reached out to you because I thought it was good. You have talent and you have a good story to tell. I believe in it and I’m sure many others will.

      Crowdfunding is not for everybody. For people like us, it requires getting over many fears and it triggers anxiety in its worse way. But this is my conclusion after getting my book funded: the struggle is worth it.

      I’m half way through the production process of my book and I cannot tell you how many times I have cried just moved by small things that I never thought would happen to me. When I received the first round of covers with my name in it; when I read my own bio in the back of my book’s jacket and realized what a long way I have come since I came to this country 15 years ago. I say do it. Go for it. Face your anxiety and keep pushing because the price is worth it.

      Now, to how you are funding your book. My position on this is not the most popular in the site but I stick by it. You are not only selling your book you are selling yourself, your story. This campaign is not about reaching to people who will read your book, it is about reaching to people who care enough about you to help you make your dream come true. When your book is out on bookstores you will get readers and fans of your work, now you are looking for supporters. The ladies of my town’s senior center where I volunteer giving rides on election day bought my book. They will never read it and that is ok. They bought it because I’m nice and they think my accent is hysterical. I’m thankful to them.

      This means that it doesn’t matter if your circle doesn’t  speak english. 1/3 of my books were sold to friends and family in Chile, of them 2 speak English. That means that about 300 people who can’t read my book paid for it anyways. 

      Sit in front of you computer, open an excel sheet and make a list of every single person you know (everybody) every friend you have on facebook, every relative, every acquaintance. Then go through the list and think how much can each person afford to support you (not if they will or not, but how many books you think they can afford to buy) then either go and talk to them or send a personal message to every single one of them asking them to get your book. Follow up, over and over. People will forget, not because they don’t want to support you, but because you are not a priority and that is ok. follow up until they pre-order.

      But for this to work you have to be brave, that is all I ask you. Be brave because people like me have your back. I cannot get you 750 orders, but I can get you 10 and the support of my Syndicate. Just know you are not alone.
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