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I debated with myself whether I should do an author spotlight this week or not, since I made that my focus last week, and I don’t want to overwhelm you with information about projects that you’re not directly following. However, I do have one particular project I really want to support.

I’ve already made this book the subject of a previous author spotlight, but it’s worthy of a second one. 


You may ask yourself "Evan, why are you, an unmarried, childless man, so invested in a memoir about a woman raising her toddler?" Well, you’d be right to assume that it isn’t my genre of choice. Other than being a gamer as well, I have little to tie myself to the subject matter of Mothering: The Game. However, interestingly, there are quite a few parallels between that book and Tantalus Depths.

Tantalus Depths saw its origins in Geek and Sundry’s Hard Science Fiction competition. It placed in the top ten, but failed to win, and ever since then I’ve been working overtime to see it hit the full funding goal the hard way. One by one I’ve seen every other entrant in that contest either give up or fall short, their campaigns dropping left and right until the only ones left standing are the winners of that contest, and me.

Mothering: The Game saw its origins in Nerdist’s Video Games competition. Regina also managed to claw her way into the top ten, but not quite to the top. Since then, she’s been working hard to try and scrape together the support she needs to make it to the Quill goal the hard way. One by one, the other entrants in her contest gave up or failed, until the only ones left standing are the winners, Alisa King’s "Are You Sure You Want To Quit" (which managed to make it to Quill and deserves your support as well), and Mothering: The Game. Only a few scattered stragglers remain, none of them with more than a couple dozen pre-orders.

I’ve seen a determination and tenacity in Regina’s campaign. She wants to finish it, she wants to hit that goal, and she’s been willing to work hard for it. She’s successfully earned the Break The Bechdel syndicate’s pick, a syndicate that focuses on books with strong female protagonists. Well...the protagonist of Mothering: The Game is Regina. The real Regina. She’s a strong female protagonist in the flesh, and she’s earned all the success she’s seen and much, much more she’s yet to see.

Her writing is personal and meaningful. The relationship between her and her daughter radiates off the page and warms the heart. I’ve backed this book, and I’ve been kicking her butt to keep trying for that goal ever since I first found Mothering: The Game. True, it’s not my genre. That doesn’t stop me from loving this book, though. And even if it did, it could not stop me from seeing the reality that Mothering: The Game is a book that must exist. There is nothing like it on Inkshares, and there are few books like it in existence. Please, please consider playing a part in bringing this book to its goal.

Mothering: The Game has only 14 days remaining in its campaign, and has already been extended once. It needs 47 more orders to reach Quill publication. If I had the cash and Inkshares allowed it, I’d buy all 47 myself.

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    Nicola Sarjeant liked an update for Lies and Deception

    Good day fellow readers,

    I have one big news for you. Lies and Deception manuscript is now completed and will be it the hands of beta readers shortly.

    I will be working on a new project shortly.

    Stay tuned :)


    Andre

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      Nicola Sarjeant liked an update for ARCADIA

      Good day fellow readers and backers.

      First of all I want to thank you for the support you showed so far for Arcadia.

      Today I am announcing the END of my campaign for Arcadia.

      The main reason is : I have a book on production titled Lies and Deception , a short story for Too Many Controllers.  I really want them to be out there , in order to be fair to you my supporters.

      once again a big thank you, 

      André Brun


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        Nicola Sarjeant liked the forum thread, Geek & Sundry Contest - New Rule
        Just want to reiterate what @Matthew Poat posted below:

        "That, after all, is what these contests is about, the hustle. Whether your idea/writing is any good isn’t as big a factor as maybe it should be. A great book written by someone who struggles to promote it properly will always struggle against a mediocre book written by a natural salesman with a big social network. At least in a crowdfunding/competition setting."

        That sums it up. Everything. Right there. The hustle is all. 

        The front page of the contest only displays the top ten - the rest are only accessible by clicking the tiny "Browse Submissions" button at the top, and if you look on there right now there’s like a hundred (probably more) books, most of which have the dreaded "0 Ordered" notification. Where are these folks? If they literally DON’T HUSTLE then they won’t get noticed. If they don’t get noticed... well... That’s too bad, too. I’m willing to bet there are some really, really great gems in there. By chance, if you’re one of the contest entrants I’m describing and you’re reading this right now, I would suggest two basic steps to get started:

        1- Get an interesting book cover. Now. Like NOW now.

        2- Get your immediate family - husband, wife, mother, father, brothers and sisters - to pre-order right now. Like NOW now. To-frikkin-day. This is your trial run for what kind of HUSTLER you are. Make these people understand that you don’t give a crap if they’re into fantasy novels - they can burn your book to keep warm once you get published for all you care... Make them understand that they are supporting YOU, YOUR dreams, YOUR chance to be a published author.

        You need a FOUNDATION on inkshares. Once you get a following, once you get a few dozen pre-orders, then things can start ramping up quickly if you’re smart. There are a million things to consider. Once you get that foundation, then you can start HUSTLIN’.

        (@Philip Wesley I went to the browse submission page and searched for your book - ctrl+f your book’s tagline - but found nothing. Also, I noticed on your author page that it says you’re the author of your book twice. Something weird going on there. Contact hello[at]inkshares via email and see if they can help you sort it out. Could it be that your book already had 20+ orders before the contest? If you "re-submitted" it after the contest started, then it probably wound up as a new entry. To my knowledge, I don’t think you can "move" an existing book onto a contest. You have to "start fresh."  ---- IF that’s the case, and you want to restart your book in the G&S sundry and transfer your readers/pre-orders... uh, well I suppose you’ll have to convince those couple dozen people to do it all over again, which can be a pain in the butt...)

        EDIT: Maybe there ought to be a button underneath #10 that says "Browse Submissions" so that the other hundreds+ books are easier for page-visitors to locate. Rather than just the tiny link at the top...? 
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          Nicola Sarjeant liked the forum thread, change in author royalties? when?
          I saw on here once (and only once) that inkshares was going to just full on publish books that make it to 250 and all would have a minimum sales price of $20, anyone else hear about that and is there any truth behind it? I’m just curious if there’s some sort of change and when, other than the percentage change discussed in this forum.
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            I hope the OP’s (and therefore also my) question itself isn’t being taken as some kind of attack on Inkshares because it’s truly not - and I’m sure Adam (as a lawyer himself) and the Inkshares staff, when they get back from the weekend, won’t take it that way. 

            Asking a question about a change to the legal terms to which we have agreed to abide should we reach our funding goal is not putting money above all else, or being ungrateful for all the other benefits of the contract and the site, or even being ’disgruntled’.  It’s just a question about the one clause that was changed. Had another clause changed, questions about that would be fair enough, too.  

            It may not feel friendly or warm (like the rest of this lovely site) but it is our duty to take the legal contracts on this site seriously and do our due diligence and there is a level of transparency due us so that we can do that. Many of us thought we had done that due diligence when we joined only a few days ago and now the terms have changed, in a way anyone would consider material, and many of us did not get any notice, so of course there are questions. But they’re not offensive questions, or even heated ones - just practical ones. 

            Inkshares have built a lovely community here - I’m enjoying it more and more every day - and usually that reflects the people who run a site, so I’m sure that when the weekend is over, the Inkshares staff will respond and put it all to rest  :) 
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              Nicola Sarjeant liked the forum thread, change in author royalties? when?
              I’m also uncomfortable with the changes. It’s great that already published authors are happy with the platform but this is a bait and switch for everyone else. Worse that we had to find out about it on our own.

              I signed up for Inkshares in late 2015, did a big push for about three weeks, then moved to rural Asia where my campaign slowed down considerably.  I had been planning for a big push in my final 30 days to get me over 750. That big push should have started yesterday, as I’ve moved back to the US this week for a seasonal job I have every fall in New York, but I’m seriously doubting it all now. I’ve already invested a lot of time and energy and hundreds of friends and family have already signed up and made purchases, but this has really drained my enthusiasm for the platform. Part of that big push would have been writing about the platform for some magazines and encouraging fellow authors to sign-up but, again, I’ve lost much of that enthusiasm. Sure, I want more money but it’s not just that--I’m 80% done with my campaign and they change the terms (without telling me) now? That leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

              Thirty-five percent is still okay--though we have to consider that that the first 250 or 750 does not go toward that. Assuming that the average published author sells as many past that mark as they do in pre-sales and that number is cut in half to 17.5%.
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                Wall of text ahead, it’s 4 am and I’m super tired.

                When I was originally told about this site I was discussing it with some fellow authors and I really couldn’t see how the previous rate of 70% could be sustainable. Aside from the percentage they receive through selling the various rights, there certainly wasn’t a way for them to become a profitable business, and even staying in business might become difficult. 

                It was obvious that eventually they would be forced to change their business model, more specifically the royalty structure. Originally, I believed that they would reduce the rates for print books and leave the digital aspect roughly the same. Without the printing costs, they could still do reasonably well in that area. Even if they dropped it to 50% it would still be more than reasonable. I also thought it was possible for some sort of sliding scale, where the author would give up a certain part of their rate in order to receive additional services. That seemed feasible as well. 

                35%, across the board, net, is arguably pretty good. It’s vastly superior to the rates offered by traditional publishers, we can’t really argue about that. The real issue is whether or not it’s warranted. 

                I hear great things from already published Inkshares authors, but that’s coming from the people who have successfully crowdfunded. Some people will argue that this skews their perception on the subject. Honestly, it might. 

                Personally, I think that the new rates make collections and contests less appealing. Losing an additional 10% (we have no idea if that will apply to certain powerhouses like Nerdist or Geek and Sundry as they already have terms with Inkshares) could be seen as a huge blow for some people. I hesitate when thinking about it. This may sound crazy, but I’ve actually told my friends and family not to buy my book yet as I’m debating whether or not I want to continue with the contest (let’s be honest, though, superheroes fighting demons might not have been the best choice to submit for this one anyways). Honestly, Inkshares can provide the services I need to take my novel to the next level, I just have to decide the terms in which I want to be published with them. It doesn’t help that I had no idea about the rate change before I started trying to fund my book. 

                I also think people will begin to question whether the promotional services that they receive with winning contests or being included in a collection is worth it. Especially when authors shoulder the majority of advertising duties in the literary world already.

                I realize that Inkshares is trying to draw in the self-publishing community, but I feel like this change in royalty rates could negatively impact that. Independent authors want that freedom of choice. When the book is released, the price and other factors are things they want to control. Inkshares has a great community, but with the reduction in royalty rates, and the author unable to set the prices when they launch their campaign, it certainly plays a role in whether they’ll want to be here. 
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                  Nicola Sarjeant liked the forum thread, Paypal ?
                  BTW since I have heard back from Jeremy who’s no longer the CEO and the Paypal option fell through... kindly can I ask @Elena Stofle to shed some light on the process? why was it abandoned and any prospect of getting Paypal in the future? thanks!
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                    Nicola Sarjeant liked the forum thread, Large Accounts leaving Inkshares
                    Let me start by saying that I appreciate your pro-Inkshares stance. There is a lot to be gained by having authors in the community stand by each other and by the platform that Inkshares represents. I’ve been pretty vocal myself about the role I think Inkshares plays and will play in modern publishing and I clap my forearms together giggling with glee every time I’m proven right somehow.

                    Be that as it may, keeping in mind that I agree with the spirit of what you say, I think you need to ratchet it back a little. Not saying it to contradict you but rather to assuage your wrath and smooth your anger. Writing books is stressful enough, you don’t need that kind of emotion in your life. 

                    So let’s unwrap this a little, shall we?

                    First, let’s look at whether or not these authors, or any writer that builds a following and leaves, are doing any harm to Inkshares. I’m going to say that the final word should be from Jeremy or Avalon or Matt, maybe even Adam! Probably not Thaddeus though. I like to think they keep him too busy for that. But in my opinion there is no harm. When a writer leaves Inkshares and takes a mailing list with him/her/it (robots!) it’s not a zero-sum situation. Inkshares retains those names too and more importantly, so do all the other authors who have these readers as followers too. While there is some degree of promotional and administrative investment that is lost, the readers these vile deserters have brought are still a benefit to Inkshares and other writers.

                    Second, leaving hurts these authors more than it hurts anyone else. Here’s why: Assuming they aren’t leaving because they were approached by an agent or a publisher, then that means they’re heading towards self publishing. I’ve self published. Pardon my french but Fuck. That. Shit. Sideways. With a crowbar. As much as I hate promoting a funding campaign (and oooh how I loathe it...) self publishing is that on steroids (TM Dan Carlin). It’s self promotion + investment + inventory management + distribution management + production management + no cookies. Ever. It’s the worst. But the real problem with abandoning an Inkshares campaign and running into the night with reader emails like the Hamburglar with a bag full of Happy Meals, is that there is no guarantee that everyone who pre-ordered the book on Inkshares is going to do so again on another platform. Especially those who paid with credits. And people who were following a book but hadn’t ordered it are even less likely to jump all over the self published version of that. So worry not my friend, if they ran to self publish I can all but guarantee some greek mythology level comeuppance to them. Real ironic stuff there.

                    Now, if they are going away because they were poached by an agent or publisher, well, to be honest, that’s an opportunity that I feel even Inkshares will agree they’d be stupid not to take. Maybe if they had funded at the full 750 pre order level it becomes more of a grey area, but the Quill goal vs. traditional representation by a publisher? I’ll take the later. Sorry Inkshares. So I can’t exactly blame them. But, since as we’ve seen they’re not hurting the platform that much to begin with, I don’t think it’s too big a deal.

                    Now, here’s where taking action to nip this in the bud is a touchy subject. I agree that an eye has to be kept on other publishers coming in to steal promising projects before they get funded. If Inkshares becomes a marketplace not for readers but for traditional publishers to shop around for talent, then it could potentially harm the platform that stands to revolutionize publishing as we know it(!).

                    But we have to be careful... this is where my experience in marketing becomes valuable. Check it out:

                    There’s this old saying: "Don’t cut your nose off just to spite your face". It’s not the best saying but it does illustrate a problem that some companies have where they will harm their target users just to deny abusers. That ain’t cool. That’s the kind of behaviour that makes it so we can’t have nice things. Allow me to illustrate with a personal example.

                    This is my projected book schedule for the next few years:

                    Notice the two books with really crude artwork instead of covers? The ones that look like napkin scribbles? Those aren’t going to be published on Inkshares. These are books I’m contracted to write for the awesome Ed Greenwood Group. Now, I’m going to assume that people who buy The Life Engineered (available on Amazon!) and A God in the Shed (not available yet! Pre-order now!) are going to be, to various degrees, fan of my work. I want to tell them about those non-Inkshares books and they want to hear about those non-Inkshares books. And I want to do it through another means of communication than the Inkshares updates for my current projects. I.e.: I need those email lists. Those lists are more useful to me (and Inkshares by association) than they are harmful in the hands of the Vile Deserters. If Inkshares removes access to those, they are harming me. They are limiting my access to my reader base. They are making my experience on Inkshares less pleasant and profitable. I get less value from it. All in the name of stopping the Vile Deserters.

                    The point of that, and it’s only one example of how this can impede the ’good’ users, is that we have to be careful what we do just to protect ourselves from the potential and perhaps inconsequential threat of the ’bad’ users. Another example you demand? By all means! What if there’s an AMAZING author that is contemplating the platform in a few months and his book would be a NYT best seller. Just, the biggest thing. But what if it could go two ways; he jumps in and his book put Inkshares on the map so hard that they become the next RandomPenguinHouse OR he looks at the policies in place to limit abuse and decides it’s too restrictive and goes elsewhere. I mean, yay, we’ve kept the ’bad’ people out, but we’ve also shot ourselves in the foot.

                    There are going to be people who are going to be dissatisfied with Inkshares. Or they’re going to find that the platform doesn’t suit them. Or they’re going to get a better offer somewhere else. Some will leave peacefully and some won’t. It’s gonna suck sometimes and we’re going to be angry for a few and happy for others, depending on context, but we can’t afford to let that affect the direction and goal of the platform.

                    The takeaway for me is: don’t get mad about these guys. They’re not your problem and they haven’t harmed you in any significant way and they’re not hurting Inkshares, but please don’t advocate too hard for a tightening of the policies because I’m worried it’ll do more harm than good.

                    Meanwhile, I’ll be extracting my email lists while I still can!
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