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During my pre-order phase, I didn’t think any bookstore or library would order a book that "might get published" so I spent no time in that effort.

I approached these outlets in person with my book in hand as soon as it was printed and "orderable".

I came prepared with a short pitch on "why their customers will like the book." I told them it was orderable in their system at the standard industry discount.

If I got any positive reaction at all, I also pitched setting up a book signing at the same time. I never mentioned "crowdfunding" because at this point, it looks just like any book from an author who has a publisher. Talking about crowfunding after your book is out will only confuse people and take away from the central message you want to convey which is "I have a great book from a reputable publisher that your customers want because . . . "

I left a copy of the book with them along with my business card.

This approach worked out pretty well. I have made author appearances at three different Barnes & Noble locations so far and am working on booking more. I’m also in several local Indie stores.

Approaching store managers in person worked better for me than writing or emailing. They get way too much correspondence from self-published authors and don’t spend much time (if any) reading these correspondences because they aren’t interested. They don’t really want to deal directly with authors, mostly just with distributors, their salespeople and sometimes publishers.

Don’t go to bookstores or libraries on the weekend or near the end of a workday. Try and catch these managers when their location isn’t very busy.  Around 10 am or 2 pm are good times. Don’t try and catch them just before or after lunch.

Even if you catch them when they have a little free time, they will evaluate your pitch in about 30 seconds and make up their mind very quickly whether they want to spend any more time than that on you or your book.

So be ready to impress them with your pitch right off the bat. "I have a great book from a reputable publisher - your customers want it because . . . . AND it is orderable in your system at the standard industry discount". Smile and hand them your book with your business card sticking out of it. Be ready to answer any questions they may have, but keep your answers short. Smile a lot. Tell the manager you like her shoes or something:-)


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    Amanda Orneck liked the forum thread, Geek & Sundry Contest - New Rule
    And that’s exactly why I agreed to step aside @Alisa King . I understand the full point needing to get others in the contest. I’m just waiting for them to shift my page out of the contest at the moment. I’m not planning on ending my campaign, I’ve still got a sequel I would like to fund! :)

    @Joey Angotti Don’t worry man, I had just taken off like a bat out of hell before I talked to Inkshares. Just, having my contest page shifted to outside the contest takes a little bit on their end from Thad the developer since I don’t want to undo my work so far.  

    If you want my advice, start now, just... start running right now. The contest is going to cause a ton of stress and it’s super fun, I love them, so I jumped in, but it’s a race and it requires a lot of work. 

    Here’s the thing: No author has a shot more or less than the others. You see, I took off out of the gates because my friends and family are already registered for the website and I didn’t have to explain it to them. Eventually, I’ll hit the same wall as everyone else.  Because you can only hit your local strangers up for crowd funding: once. (ask anyone whose tried two campaigns)

    I gladly willing to coach and help any new author trying to hit the ground game on the best way to get crowd funding going. This contest is 90 days long sure, but don’t way so long. 

    As for Seventh Age: Dystopia, I hope you enjoy the concept and I’ll pick up campaign mode on that later on outside of the contest. :)
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      Hi @Joey Angotti. A fair concern to have, and thank you for sharing it! First, I’d like to mention that Rick Heinz’s project isn’t eligible and he is gracefully bowing out of the contest. Regarding Inkvengers, the anthology is atypical to the books we publish, and we have precluded books with more than two authors from joining further contests, as it does make it harder for single-author book entries to have the same level of self-promotion. It’s important to us that we make sure the system is open to new entrants. Our community is expansive, and separate from just this one contest (which has only just begun!). It can feel daunting to see books with lots of orders out the gate, but so much can happen in the span of three months!
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        @Evan Graham Great question. If you’re an Inkvenger and don’t have another book (except for Too Many Controllers) in production, we’ll give you a one-time exception to enter the contest if you’re interested.
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          Yeah, @johnsoncm , It’s crowd funding. Before you crowd fund, you’ve got to have your own platform and do your own legwork. 70% of your book funding needs to come from your own resources easily right now. 

          I know it’s the harsh truth, what @Ricardo Henriquez is saying has merit. 

          As part of what you are doing in crowd funding is selling yourself and practicing your self promotion skills. 

          Syndicate backing isn’t a matter, or a metric, of if a book will sell or not. That’s more a matter of community engagement. Authors who are helpful to the community, will be picked up by Syndicates more than anything else.

          Which, does increase the chance the book will fund. But you’ve still gotta bring your own readers to the table. 

          There just simply aren’t enough authors to reliably fund a book from someone else on the website. I could go further into some tactics and some math behind stuff. 

          One thing to do: Is recruit people who want to support as readers, to join syndicates. Although that’s a hard sell because basically you are paying a lot of money for years before you get a product. 

          However just so you know: Inkshares Nirvana moment is when they have enough readers on the site where it’s easier to fund, and they are indeed working on that behind the scenes. It’s just going to take years for that kind of traction to build up. 

          They do, however, come. I’ve got 5 people who are just avid readers that stalk a lot of books on here. I brought them to Inkshares with me. Now imagine if every other author had 1-2. 

          Eventually...
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            Amanda Orneck liked the forum thread, Non-public project behaviour
            I wanted to check the behaviour regarding projects that "have not been made public yet."

            I’ve hit this a couple of times when looking at the profiles of people who have followed me - I go to look at their own books only to receive the "this book has not been made public yet" message.  See below:

            Looking at the writer’s profile I see a link to their draft book:
            I click on the book to check it out and bounce to the home page with this banner message:


            My question is:

            If a book hasn’t been made public yet by the author, is it ok for it to show up in the authors list of books (is that desired behaviour)?

            If the answer to (1) above is yes, then wouldn’t it be a better user experience to provide an indication on the author’s profile page that the book isn’t public and prevent the user from clicking on it in the first place?
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              Congrats on funding!
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