Deus Hex Machina

Created about 2 years ago by Joseph Terzieva with 25 comments
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Picture Amanda Orneck · Author · edited over 1 year ago · 3 likes
Just figured I would refresh this for anyone pining for a good cyberpunk tale. 32 days to go in its funding cycle, DHM could use your support!
Picture Thomas J. Arnold · Author · added about 2 years ago
Yeah, Chattacon will only be 3-4 hours from me and I still likely won't be able to go due to finances, so I definitely feel you on that.
Picture Amanda Orneck · Author · edited about 2 years ago · 1 like
Right. I might not end up going though now that our financial situation has changed. That's a lot of investment that we just don't have.
Picture Thomas J. Arnold · Author · edited about 2 years ago · 1 like
@Amanda Orneck Chattacon is the main reason I kinda wished my campaign end date was a few weeks later.  I'm kind of a horrible wreck when trying to speak in person though(or speak out loud at all really), so I don't know how much help any of the Con's would end up being for me.  I hope its a good experience for you, and while it may be too late to help with the contest its still in your campaign timeframe so you could still push for some preorders while there.
390 521575197599 9596 n A.C. Weston · Author · added about 2 years ago
@Thaddeus Woodman the link in the notification email about someone liking something still says "liked this for this!" and the link doesn't work.

Here's the hyperlink: http:///?utm_source=system+email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=LikesMailer:notify_liked
390 521575197599 9596 n A.C. Weston · Author · edited over 1 year ago · 4 likes
I did a little breakdown on a Goodreads thread a while back to try and figure out where most of my orders were coming from. As I recall, the vast majority were from individual requests online. I sent a LOOOOOT of personalized (i.e. "Hey Katie, I saw your last video of you Irish step dancing and it was so cool! I hope I get to see you in person one of these days. Let me know the next time you have a show.
I'm sending you a message because I wrote a book, and I'm hoping you'll give it a chance and check it out." etc etc) messages to individual people, and that method brought in the most orders. And giving away stuff, too. Everyone likes a contest or giveaway.

I got a pretty good response for a few days from pitches, but then it trailed off and no one was responded to those anymore. I think everyone just started sending out so many pitches that people started ignoring them.

I constantly remember a piece of advice from Lindsey Buroker, a self-publishing author that I really respect and admire - she said you pretty much have to hand-sell your first 1000 copies. If you're an unknown author, you have to just go order by order, one person at a time. It's gonna be hard.

But if each of us can get you an order or five, that will help!

Imlnct1j Jamison Stone · Author · added about 2 years ago
Picture JF Dubeau · Author · edited over 1 year ago · 5 likes
@Amanda Orneck Here's my take on it; find your niche. Jamison had tremendous success going to cons and leveraging his in-person presence. Brian Guthrie had similar success by pushing his massive Facebook following and a knack for communicating online. Like Jamison says; it takes a specific personality to do what he did and that can be said of any kind of successful endeavour. You might not have it in you to do what he did, or what Brian did, but you may very well have something completely different yet equally as potentially successful. Look to your strength and find out how to use them to find new readers. 

The one thing both Jamison and Brian, and anyone else who's found success in these campaigns, have in common is perseverance and an ability to find and engage with new groups of people. If you can do that, you can probably sell your book.

Good luck.
Imlnct1j Jamison Stone · Author · edited over 1 year ago · 3 likes
@Amanda Orneck If it's helpful, I find people do too much at home (online) promotion. If someone wishes to emulate my success, they should be focusing on getting out the door and physically in front of the people they want to buy their book--then you have to actually pitch and sell it to these people. This, however, takes a very specific personality and type of presence. You also need to find the correct physical forum to promote/sell your book. 

Selling a book in person that does not physically exist yet is a VERY tricky business. Despite this, unless you already have a previously established online network which is receptive to a call to action, getting out there in a receptive location and pitching person to person seems to be the best way to get pre-orders.

I will be honest with you though, the personal effort required to do this is astronomical and I do not believe most people fully understand what it is takes to be successful with this method. If you have questions please PM or directly link me @Jamison Stone Good luck!!!
Picture Amanda Orneck · Author · edited over 1 year ago · 3 likes
No sorries, just let me clean up this random moisture that's accumulate in my eyes somehow...

Honestly I was just talking with my husband about how I think I've stalled on all the possible channels for funding on this project.  I've reached out to the last 20 prospects on my list and will keep pinging until I get a definitive answer, but all we can come up with is posting fliers in libraries, but that's more of a passive shot in the dark.  I was just saying to him this might be my funding limit -- 43 copies.  I mean that's more than Shadow of the Owl got, so that's a success in itself.

I tried to leverage a massive facebook group I'm in called Mamageeks, but they must have seen through my proxy self-promotion through a friend because there was no response, like at all to the post.  These wre the people that bout like 400 copies of SotO the first weekend, but that might have been because they were free and I was complaining about how my mother wouldn't read the book so they were jumping to my defense.

I did post on reddit, but self-promotion has never been successful in my book (or for my book even): https://www.reddit.com/r/writing/comments/3vqqam/check_in_selfpromotion_and_off_topic_discussion/cxzwe0s

I thought of using a Twitch stream -- I did this during my last day of nanowrimo and although the quality of the writing suffered a bit since I had an audience, it was kinda fun to stream and write at the same time.

But ultimately all these avenues are passive.  The person who I wish I could emulate in terms of preorder strategies is @Jamison Stone .  He managed to reach out into the community and pull hundreds of preorders in just days.  It's a real shame that this contest ends mid January, because I have a table at Chattacon where I could have sold preorders, but that's the last week in January.  

@A.C. Weston Your page keeps coming up because Art really wants to collaborate on the graphic novel with you. He asks me like daily about this hehe that's how excited he is about the idea.  

Mylanta, I'm just so darn HONORED that you all think this much of the book! 
162980 10150347252315626 6077063 n Joseph Terzieva · Author · edited about 2 years ago · 2 likes
Sorry @Amanda Orneck 

I wanted to create a thread to talk about how we could promote your book, but it turned into a forum testing conversation. Welcome to the new forum!
162980 10150347252315626 6077063 n Joseph Terzieva · Author · added about 2 years ago
I just had the same experience on a different thread, so I can confirm that too. I would like to talk to @Thaddeus Woodman to get the logic on when notifications are sent (follow vs mention,) so I can have it straight for testing.
390 521575197599 9596 n A.C. Weston · Author · added about 2 years ago
Yes
162980 10150347252315626 6077063 n Joseph Terzieva · Author · added about 2 years ago
So you did get a notification when I made the "test" message?
390 521575197599 9596 n A.C. Weston · Author · added about 2 years ago
Wait! No! That email subject line (for when I mentioned myself there below) was different!
390 521575197599 9596 n A.C. Weston · Author · added about 2 years ago
Got an email notification. Still no difference in the email subject line when there's an @A.C. Weston versus none.
162980 10150347252315626 6077063 n Joseph Terzieva · Author · added about 2 years ago
Test
390 521575197599 9596 n A.C. Weston · Author · added about 2 years ago
I just unfollowed. Let's see.
162980 10150347252315626 6077063 n Joseph Terzieva · Author · added about 2 years ago
Do you all get updates from the thread when you are not following it or only if you are following it?
Picture JF Dubeau · Author · added about 2 years ago
Yeah, launch party. Fat-fingered that word.

I'm hoping to get some kind of event going and if I can do that I'll have a google hangout active for the event. I'll apply what we learned today (speakers, good location, etc.). Though if I get my wish, the event will be at a book store so that might easier to accommodate.
162980 10150347252315626 6077063 n Joseph Terzieva · Author · added about 2 years ago
Oh yeah, we will definitely organize when your book comes out.
162980 10150347252315626 6077063 n Joseph Terzieva · Author · added about 2 years ago
@JF Dubeau What's a launch part? Launch party?

How can we get this book more pre-orders?
390 521575197599 9596 n A.C. Weston · Author · edited about 2 years ago · 3 likes
I really like what I see so far about DHM, too. I'm offering Amanda my very first attempt at graphic novel-style art by illustrating a page for her. It may end up terrible, but if she likes it it could turn into something to offer as an incentive for her readers.

We could try to line up some posts on different blogs with potential interested readers. There's also reddit, too, though I haven't ventured there much.

@JF Dubeau we're definitely going to all pull together and promote The Life Engineered when it comes out!
Picture JF Dubeau · Author · edited about 2 years ago · 1 like
Actually, I'm hoping to have something like this going on when I do my launch party for The Life Engineered.

162980 10150347252315626 6077063 n Joseph Terzieva · Author · edited over 1 year ago · 6 likes
I'm really hungry for Deus Hex Machina to make it in the Sword & Laser contest. I know we have the JOHN'S LIST, but how about a little JOE'S LIST this time? Does anyone have an audience they can reach out to get more support on this book? I've sent some Twitter and Facebook posts, but I don't think they brought any returns.

I feel like there is a richness to the world of Deus Hex Machina I'd like to explore and I feel like it should be something shared to a wider audience.